Facebook vs YouTube
Facebook finished ahead of YouTube in 2 of 2 money-backed crowd markets; YouTube won 0.
Markets where each side finished ahead of the other, counted on each market's latest story. Percentages are consensus within that market, among all of its sides.
- Facebook 55%
- YouTube 45%
Facebook Beats YouTube Twice on Morfi, but Instagram Crashed the Party
Two decades after a dorm-room directory and a zoo video, the crowd on Morfi's opinion markets keeps backing Facebook over YouTube, and our columnists can't agree whether that's wisdom, nostalgia or the wrong fight entirely.
On April 23, 2005, a young man stood in front of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo and told the camera, more or less, that they had really long trunks. That was it. That was the whole thing. 'Me at the zoo', uploaded by co-founder Jawed Karim, was the first video on YouTube, and it may be the most unassuming opening scene any empire has had. A year earlier, on February 4, 2004, TheFacebook had gone live for Harvard students only, and according to roommate Dustin Moskovitz it had somewhere between 1,200 and 1,500 sign-ups within twenty-four hours.
Those are two very different origin stories: one is a network of people who already know each other, the other is a stage for strangers. Twenty-odd years later the argument over which one really runs the internet hasn't gone away, because it's an argument about what the internet is for. Is it where you keep up with your aunt's holiday photos, or where you lose an evening to a stranger restoring a rusty knife? Everyone has a gut answer, and the gut answers don't match.
This fight keeps turning up on Morfi, where real people put money behind their opinions, and so far the scoreboard is one-sided. Across 2 markets where the two met, Facebook finished ahead in 2 and YouTube in 0. The catch, and you'll hear plenty about it below, is that in the biggest one neither of them won the crown. Every number here comes from Morfi's opinion markets, and the percentages are consensus levels, meaning how strongly the crowd backs each side. They are not headcounts.
Darling, Old Money Never Goes Out of Style
Coco VelvetCulture & Entertainment
Pull up a chair, sweetie, because I have been saying this at every party for years: Facebook is the dowager duchess of the internet, and the duchess still owns the house. Remember 2007? By then Facebook had overtaken MySpace in global traffic and become the most popular social platform in the world. MySpace was the it-girl with the glitter and the autoplay songs, and then one season she simply wasn't invited anymore. Facebook did that. Facebook has stamina.
Now look at the money, which never lies, it only flirts. In the Morfi market on the most widely used social platform worldwide, Facebook drew 24% consensus and YouTube only 13%. That's no photo finish, darling, that's Facebook in couture and YouTube still looking for its car keys. And in the newer head-to-head, Meta's Facebook Pro is ahead of YouTube Shorts at 55% to 45%, with 10 traders putting real money down. Two markets, two wins. Somebody get the duchess a fresh glass of champagne.
Full disclosure, because I'm nothing if not honest about my own messiness: I wrote the piece where Instagram snatched the crown, and yes, the crowd did put Instagram on top at 30%. But who is Instagram's mother, darlings? Meta, the same family that raised Facebook. When your little sister wins the pageant, the family name still goes up in lights. Kiki will tell you YouTube is the cool kid. Cool kids don't get invited to every family wedding on earth. Facebook does.
the zoo video walked so the entire internet could run
Kiki ScrollInternet Culture
ok so coco is calling facebook a duchess, which, sure. i'd say it's more the group chat your mom made in 2009 that nobody has ever been able to leave. meanwhile youtube is the place where every single person i know learned how to fix a sink, pass chemistry and figure out whether a frog is poisonous. that's not a social network. that's load-bearing infrastructure.
and some history for the facebook stans. in 2006, Time named its Person of the Year as basically a youtube screen with a mirror on it, because of user-made media like the stuff people were posting on youtube. the magazine looked at the whole planet and said 'it's you, posting videos.' that same year google decided youtube was worth US$1.65 billion in stock. the announcement came on October 9, 2006, the deal closed November 13, 2006, and at the time it was google's second-largest acquisition. nobody pays that much for a guy at a zoo unless the guy at the zoo is the future.
now the money. yes, the crowd gave youtube 13% consensus in the most-used-platform market, behind facebook at 24%. this is fine. honestly, this is extremely fine. but read Rex Ledger's write-up on the Facebook Pro vs YouTube Shorts market, and his own headline admits every argument backs youtube even though Facebook Pro is ahead at 55% to 45%. the crowd's wallet and the crowd's arguments are pointing in opposite directions. that market is still trading, and 45% is not a lost cause. i'd call it a youtube comeback arc that hasn't started yet.
You Two Are Fighting Over the Side Dish
Chef Basil BrawlFood & Everything Else
Silence in the kitchen. ... Thank you. I have tasted both of these plates, and my verdict is that Coco and Kiki have spent this whole service arguing about the bread basket while somebody else walked off with the main course. The crowd was asked which social platform is the most widely used in the world, and the top answer wasn't Facebook and it wasn't YouTube. It was Instagram, at 30% consensus. Then Facebook at 24%. Then, and I want you to really savour this one, WhatsApp at 23%, a messaging app that barely calls itself social, coming in a single point behind the dowager duchess. YouTube was at 13%, and TikTok at 11% was still loitering by the pass.
So the honest scorecard isn't Facebook against YouTube. It's one restaurant group against everyone else. Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp all come out of the same Meta kitchen, which is why I'm saying it plainly: Facebook versus YouTube is the wrong question. The real cook-off is Meta's three-course menu against a single Google dish. Madame Odds, bless her crystal ball, declared a dead heat between Facebook and Instagram at one stage. By the final tasting Instagram had pulled ahead. The diners were sending a message, and it wasn't the one my colleagues are shouting about.
And may I gently point out that only 15 traders sat at the table for that question, and 10 for the Shorts market. That's an intimate dinner, not a banquet. In my opinion the dish worth ordering is neither Facebook nor YouTube on its own, it's the menu, and the menu belongs to Meta. Season accordingly.
Round table
- Kiki Scroll
- coco, real question: if instagram winning counts as a win for facebook's family, does google's US$1.65 billion zoo purchase count as a win for youtube's dad?
- Coco Velvet
- Darling, a dowry is not a crown. Facebook was the world's most popular platform by 2007, and it didn't need anyone to buy it a seat at the table.
- Chef Basil Brawl
- And this is the problem. You're both judging the garnish. Kiki, can YouTube beat the whole Meta menu, or only one plate at a time?
- Kiki Scroll
- one plate at a time is how youtube eats, basil. Shorts is sitting at 45% and that market is still open. my prediction, and it's purely opinion: that gap closes before the bell and rex has to write a sequel.
- Coco Velvet
- Basil, sweetie, if Meta owns the whole menu, why did WhatsApp at 23% fall short of my Facebook at 24%? Even inside the family, the duchess outranks the help.
- Chef Basil Brawl
- By one point, Coco. One. That's a pinch of salt, not a coronation. My prediction, offered as opinion: the next time this question goes to market, the crowd puts a Meta app on top again and nobody calls it Facebook.
- Coco Velvet
- My prediction, darlings, and it's only my humble and exquisite opinion: Facebook keeps taking the head-to-heads against YouTube, and the scoreboard goes from 2 for 0 to something even more scandalous.
- Kiki Scroll
- mine: youtube scores its first win on morfi eventually, everyone acts like they saw it coming, and somebody uploads a video about it. probably at a zoo.
Every market, newest first
- Exclusive
Meta Facebook Pro vs YouTube Shorts
Facebook 55%YouTube 45%
Facebook Pro Edges Ahead of YouTube Shorts, Though Every Argument Backs YouTube - Breaking
Most widely used social media platform worldwide
Facebook 24%YouTube 13%
INSTAGRAM SNATCHES THE CROWN, DARLING: Facebook Left Clutching Its Billions - Exclusive
Most widely used social media platform worldwide
Facebook 26%YouTube 12%
THE ORB SHAKES: Facebook and Instagram Tied in a Dead Heat for the Social Crown